Aimee Byrd

Inside the word. Outside the box.

Two years ago, the curtains were drawn back for me regarding reviling behavior towards me and others from officers in my own denomination. I tried to confront it at the denominational level, as well as locally since one of my elders was participating in this group.

I tried to go through this process of exposing darkness, seeking care, repentance, reconciliation, and justice in a godly—and presbyterian—way. I have failed at times. Even when my actions were acceptable, often my heart was not. Please forgive me if I have led anyone into sin in that way.

I have been documenting the public parts of this process on the denominational level, not the local, more personal level. The links are below. Because of this, other women who have suffered through abuse in the OPC began reaching out to me. Most of them never even had access to the system. Others were battered by it. Their stories are far worse than mine and most of them have not been heard. Some shared that they were experiencing healing from my writing, as it expressed the same patterns and actions that they encountered in seeking help. It helped to name it. To see that it isn’t them. And they were getting hopeful that something may be done about it. I carry these women and stories with me in my own writing.

My experience in trying to follow this through has made visible to me why I have been writing all along. I’ve been writing to prove my own existence, and that of my sex, as disciples in the church. Ones that think. And contribute theologically. And yet I still didn’t realize how bad it was. How pervasive the views of women’s’ inferiority and lust for men’s power are. The process in seeking help made me feel less like a part of the household of God, less like a sister in Christ, and less like a gift.

I couldn’t understand how someone could have as many receipts as I did and have the whole matter be parsed into two words: raging wolf. If this number of church officers have these beliefs and feel free to speak like this in the open, how many women are silently suffering in their churches? And even the positive actions of the General Assembly (GA) were terribly demeaning to me on multiple levels. Wrapped up in that is that there is no design in the process for seeking out the voices of the very ones affected by the decisions made by those with the agency to do so.

I wanted so badly to hold onto my church.

After GA, all the formal and informal action and inaction took its toll on me. The session meetings, announcements, apologies to the men, committee reports, presbytery meetings, trials, appeals, and GA all sent messages to me about my value. As strong as I was trying to be, the physiological effects were manifesting.

After GA, my family decided we needed to step back for clarity and healing. We have been worshipping at a different church since then. We still have love for New Hope, the people in it, and want the church there to thrive. We’ve shared with our elders, and they generously hired a specialist on spiritual abuse to facilitate, how we are processing all this. This week we asked that our memberships be removed.

I wish it didn’t have to be this way. But God is upholding us. He is good. And he has provided a loving church that we can begin healing in.

My prayer for the OPC is that they will hire a third party like G.R.A.C.E. to address the abuse in the church that is compounding and to help with caring for survivors. I pray that they will investigate how the system is hindering women from reporting and move towards reform. I pray that they will have a vision for this. I pray that abuse will no longer be enabled. And that they will value the voices of their women.

But I realize now that I kept asking myself if I was safe in the OPC. Even as I was being answered over and over with a resounding NO and I was learning this is the case for many women in the denomination, I hadn’t realized how distorted my thinking had become. What kind of question is that? We should be asking if we are flourishing there.

There are so many good things that I don’t want to walk away from. But I realize even more how that is why people stay in abusive situations for so long. They have so much invested. There are many wonderful moments and people mixed in with the toxicity. I pray that this is an opportunity for the OPC to evaluate her witness to the world and churches around them. And to evaluate what is being taught about man and woman in their churches and whether that brings glory to God.

I need to move forward in a church where I am valued as a gift whose contributions matter like anyone else’s. Where any guidance or critique is offered in love and not as attacks on my character and plots to ruin my reputation and vocation. My children need to see that not all church is like this. I don’t know what the long-term effects of these last two years are on them. I wanted to show them to follow through for what’s right, even when it costs. I wanted to show them a mother who would stand up for herself and others. But now I need to show them that sometimes you need to walk away. Sometimes you are contributing to your own abuse by staying. Furthermore, since my case has been public, I cannot in good conscience send a message to any of the vulnerable looking for help in the OPC that they will be safe. As Spurgeon put it so well, “Leniency to the dishonest is cruelty to those whom they injure.” On the denominational level, I’m done fighting to belong to such cruelty.

Don’t hear me wrong. There are many good people in the OPC. And in these hard times, I have made new friends with church officers in the denomination who have labored for my case. I am grateful for their friendship, support, longsuffering and listening ears. I am grateful for our time and growth at New Hope, the friendships there, and for my elders putting so much costly time in trying to do what is right.

I want to publicly thank all those who have sent me private messages of encouragement. You have been gifts from the Lord to me.

Thank you to my friends who have been with me in my lamenting and weakest moments. Thanks for showing me beauty.

Thank you to all who have supported me publicly in different ways. I know it often costs. It speaks so much to me that you see and vocalize support.

Thank you to the signers and writers of the Open Letter when this was first brought to light, and even for reaching out to post it on my blog. That action sent a message to all those who were reviled against that we are worth public expressions of care.

Thank you to my husband who shows me true freedom in belonging.

Genevan Commons and Qualification for Church Office

Who is Valued in the OPC?

Missing the Plot: An Update on the Presbytery of the Southeast

A Plea for Reform: Observations from the Trial in the PSE

Is this Our Message?

An Open Letter to the OPC on Abuse

One Year After Publishing Recovering from Biblical Manhood and Womanhood

Reflections on the OPC GA Meeting: Part One

Reflections on the OPC GA Meeting: Part Two

How the Presbytery of the Southeast Responded to GA

67 thoughts on “Leaving the OPC

  1. janetlynnem says:

    I’m so sad for you, Aimee. Yet I believe you made the right decision. I hope you can find people that are genuine followers of Christ, with a heart for others and a respect for all humans who are made in the image of God, and loved by Him. God is watching all of this, and He will make all things right.

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    1. Christina Thompson says:

      Thank you, loads, Aimee, for your contribution on the topic of womanhood. It was an important part of changing my thinking about the theology I was injecting. He causes me to start guarding my daughters from teaching that would want to rob them of their love for doctrine. It also played a part in helping my husband and I to leave our fundamentalist leaning church. It is so liberating to attend a church that teaches covenant grace. I feel loved and free by Christ. Your work has been very valuable to me. I am sorry for your suffering. I just wanted you to do that you made a difference for me.

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      1. Rhonda says:

        I am struggling with much the same at my OPC church. Thank you for sharing your story.

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  2. Carol Noren Patterson says:

    My Florida pastor wanted me to try the OPC here in Alabama. I went there one night, but even though advertised as having a Sunday night worship service they weren’t open. \

    I am happy in the Evangelical Presbyterian Church in Huntsville, AL, which I had been a member of over 30 years ago with my first husband. The Evangelical Presbyterian Church is a split from another Presbyterian denomination about ten years ago.

    Thanks, Aimee, for being yourself and honest with this process.

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    1. Stephanie says:

      Carol,
      Would you mind sharing the name of this evangelical Presbyterian church. We are in Huntsville and looking for a new church. We recently left our PCA church and have visited a few churches.

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      1. Carol says:

        Central Presbyterian
        406 Randolph
        Huntsville, AL 35801
        256-534-8446

        We are north of downtown and share a parking lot with a synagogue a block away. We have programs for all ages.

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  3. Cynthia W. says:

    Best wishes to you and your family, Aimee. Your honesty and caring have been extremely edifying to me.

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  4. John says:

    I attend a PCA church and found they have fellowship wtih OPC. Do you think the reason that this OPC church is this way is because of its conservativism or it is because of certain things in the bible that feeds into their niche of how things are done? i.e. woman are to be silent in the the church while also neglecting ‘husbands love your wives’.

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    1. Aimee Byrd says:

      I think there are layers of reasons that I’ve faced this in the denomination. I’ve written about them in the articles linked.

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  5. Sally says:

    Church hurt is so common. I’ve also experienced this. It especially hurts Christ.

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  6. Sam Well says:

    Are you attending a church with a woman pastor?

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    1. Aimee Byrd says:

      Hmmm, very interesting comment. Revealing. But no, I am not.

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      1. melisslong says:

        Thank you for persevering and openly sharing your journey, Aimee.

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      2. The Daily Genevan is reporting that you are. I saw badly wanted to make a comment over there, but it isn’t worth it. I was curious as to whether they were going to respond to your blog this morning. It didn’t take them long. And they have another ugly meme over there. It just never ends. So very sorry for you my friend.

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      3. Cynthia W. says:

        The Catholic Church, *cue scary music*, does not have women as ordained clergy (bishops, priests, and deacons). It does have women, both lay women and women in religious life (nuns and sisters) in a wide variety of “pastoral” roles, including teaching, counseling, evangelism, parish and diocesan management, canon law, and others. There’s a whole world of men and women working together as equal members of the Body of Christ.

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      4. Cris A Dickason says:

        Aimee – the talk on twitter, etc. is that you are attending a church with woman pastor. That would be an understandable reaction, especially if only temporary. Don’t let false shepherds push you in a direction you wouldn’t otherwise go. Your understandable and necessary decision is a sad day for a Once Proud Church, which is now an Overly Proud Church.
        -=Cris=-

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      5. Eduardo says:

        Did you consider attending a church with a woman pastor or shepherdess?

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    2. Brandon M. says:

      Because when you leave the OPC, your only option is the UMC, right? Come on, man.

      I don’t think many would’ve ever thought you would have made it this long in the OPC, Aimee. As hard as it may have been, I’m glad you stuck it out and waited for the slow process of Presbyterian polity to run its course. I also hope the OPC will follow through with the allegations of spiritual abuse and vote to allow a competent and professional organization like G.R.A.C.E. to help bring clarity to this unfortunate situation.

      Thanks for sharing your experiences and for advocating for the spiritually abused in Christ’s church.

      May God bring healing to the abused, repentance and discipline to the abusers and enablers, and continue building Christ’s church for His glory.

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    3. scottie says:

      she indicated she is not. But really, so what? Is the sky going to fall?

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  7. David Cortright says:

    Aimee

    I am heartbroken for you and your family. I cannot imagine the price you and your family has paid. You have followed the rules of your denomination, you have responded with patience and respect. I am sorry it hasn’t been reciprocated.

    I pray you find new church home that is orthodox in doctrine and practice, filled with grace and love. May you be greeted with open arms and your family regain a sense of what the body of Christ can be.

    In Jesus Name,

    David Cortright

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  8. kimcosgrove says:

    I am so sorry, Aimee. I have followed your story and I have appreciated that you’ve expended the personal energy to explain and instruct people whom you don’t know when it would have been much easier to only share with those in your world. I want to thank you as someone who has benefitted. I am praying that God will abundantly bless you as he leads you and your family to your next church. May they embody Jesus’ care for women.

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  9. I, too, had to leave my denomination – a denomination that I had given my children to, my money for, my energy and love to, when I began speaking out for women’s equality in the church and home. My husband opened my eyes to the inequality that the church that proclaims love – puts women in a different category. God’s love for her and her daughters is limited to certain roles, we were told, even though we were equal in essence, whatever that means. God bless you.

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  10. Christine says:

    I hope you can keep your family’s true friends from that church. I appreciate your raw openness. It is good for us survivors to hear of others and how they are following God out of the coercive control. Praying for you, sister.

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  11. I started following you during the Mortification of Spin days. It was such a joy to listen to the three of you discuss important theological matters. I was shocked and disappointed when you were “dismissed” from the show. That happened during my own time of healing from spiritual abuse. The more I saw of the dark underbelly of toxic church systems, the nearer I drew to Jesus. He never let me go.

    You’ve been a shining light throughout this ordeal. Your love for Jesus is evident! Thank you for your courage and voice. Many blessings to you and your family.

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  12. David Vermette says:

    Congratulations on moving on to a new church home! We also joined a new church outside the OPC a few months ago when our attempts to hold our local OPC elders accountable for their abuses to several families floundered. Sadly, I know that your statement “their stories are far worse than mine” is true. Happily, I also know that your statement “they were experiencing healing from my writing” is also true.

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    1. Aimee Byrd says:

      Sorry for what you’ve been through, David. It takes it’s toll.

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  13. Graham Dugas says:

    It seems this blog has become a place for discontented women. All but three [four if you include this comment] of the comments are from females. Just 3 of 18 so far are males… that is telling of who your blog reaches.

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    1. cole brumley says:

      I am a male, and an officer in the OPC. I am learning to LISTEN instead of opening my gob with scorn every time a woman opens her mouth. Thank God women have a place to vent because of men like you.

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      1. Graham Dugas says:

        Cole, I’m glad you are learning to listen because my comment was a purely demographic observation along the lines of: “yes, there are two black cats and four striped ones in the litter”. Moreover the comment about “discontented women” was also an observation without disapprobation. Not one of the female commenters are expressing contentment. I’m so glad you are learning to listen without your prejudices coloring your perception. Because if you allowed your emotions to read something into my comment that wasn’t there, you might resort to using intemperate characterizations such as “opening one’s gob with scorn”. But you are rational and would never do that. You have learned to listen… and to hear things that are not being said.

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      2. Mark Schaefer says:

        Graham, you talk to Jesus with that mouth? You’ve been called out for what was clearly a smear of Aimee, her blog and those who follow it. Take your lumps and go home.

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    2. brumley4charternet says:

      It’s that good discontented women have a place to go. I am a male, and an OPC officer. Now seemed to me like a good time to LISTEN to them rather than feeling the need to always open my gob and embarrass the rest of us.

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    3. John Tripp says:

      Yes. It’s clearly discontent when you’ve been constantly and continually vilified by ordained OPC leaders, have been through the entire OPC discipline process, and have been told you’re the problem. Your comment EXACTLY illustrates the problem.

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    4. Graham I think you’re obviously in the wrong place. Have you heard of the Genevan Commons group? it attracts discontented men who rage impotently about women not being around to make them sandwiches. I suspect that’s some sort of euphemism but I really think you’d fit in well there.

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      1. Susan says:

        What is wrong with you, and the people on this blog? Grahams comment was very measured, and you basically go off on him.

        And arrogant comments like, I “should just shut my gob and listen.” Sounds so high minded, modern, and progressive. It also arrogantly assumes the other persons involved aren’t listening, which is probably false. It also argues one person should say whatever is on their mind, and another should simply listen and accept whatever is said. That’s ridiculous on its face.

        I have little understanding of what has occurred, but it sounds like a merciful end for this person to have left the church, and also merciful for the church to severe ties with a parishioner who feels it’s necessary to blast a church publicly across the internet.

        From an outsider looking in, this reads like a comments section of people with axes to grind and who enjoy elevating their own importance.

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    5. jaredef says:

      This is the biggest “I’m a complete turd* comment I’ve ever seen.

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    6. Tom Parker says:

      How is it telling Graham? I think your comment tells us who you are. You are acting like a donkey.

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      1. Being a bit harsh on donkeys there Tom.

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  14. John Tripp says:

    Yes, clearly it’s discontent to kindly describe the reasons for leaving the OPC, after working through the long OPC polity process, being constantly and continually vilified by ordained OPC leaders, and being told that you are the problem is fomenting discontent. Your response EXACTLY illustrates the problem.

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  15. Howard Davis says:

    Praying for you…that you would experience healing from the abuse that you experienced from those who call themselves pastors and elders. Praying that the voice and affection of Christ towards you will drown out the voices and older brother disdain that has come towards you. You have been a gift to the church and I long that you would once again experience the church as a gift to you. A PCA pastor

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  16. Donald Philip Veitch says:

    A lot of “I, me and my” here. Bad odors are on offer. It’s the best thing for you to leave and ego-assert somewhere else.

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    1. Howard Davis says:

      I noticed that you were a Reverend. Christ calls you to abound in love and grace, not hate and spite.

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  17. Ethan Hunt says:

    Absolutely the right decision. You tried harder than most fighting a battle you could never win. since I am a man I can fight for women like yourself in a sister denomination and actually make some progress. But as a woman by yourself? Not a chance. Leave and don’t look back. the OPC is a lost cause.

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  18. Daniel Rust says:

    So sorry to hear this, Aimee. As an aspiring pastor hoping to go into either the PCA or OPC, I hope and pray for abuse to be weeded out from our presbyteries. We are not as orthodox as we claim to be if wickedness and malice are allowed to go undisciplined among us. May we grow to love as Christ loves and hate the sin that so tragically separates us from one another. If I may, as a younger brother, I pray for the Lord’s healing and help for you and your family as you work through the trauma you’ve experienced.

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  19. Anon says:

    I don’t know how you’ve made it this long. Your words here especially resonate: “My children need to see that not all church is like this. I don’t know what the long-term effects of these last two years are on them. I wanted to show them to follow through for what’s right, even when it costs. I wanted to show them a mother who would stand up for herself and others. But now I need to show them that sometimes you need to walk away.” The ripples will continue for years. You will think things are doing better and you are healing, and suddenly something throws you back to what feels like square one. And the pain of those moments can feel as unbearable as the original harm. And yet God uses it all. He makes even these most wicked of circumstances beautiful in his time. May you be surrounded by people who build Rivendells for your heart, mind, and body.

    Our lives were turned upside down. Our mental, emotional, physical, and spiritual well-being were all sacrificed for the sake of patriarchal pride. (This was in the PCA.) To say that I cannot fathom embracing any presbyterian denomination again would be an understatement, even after 20+ years serving in that denomination. Praying for you, your husband, and your kids’ hearts and minds. ❤️

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  20. I am so relieved. I was deeply grieved whenever I heard you interviewed on a podcast. A church should NEVER intentionally hurt people and those who hurt you are being protected. The OPC also wants to control its members and that is not healthy. I hope you find a new church that doesn’t participate in thought control and welcomes questions and growth.

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  21. BEV STERK says:

    so sorry Aimee, heart breaking in so many ways… I know of so many who have had to walk away as spiritual refugees, because it was not safe for them to stay…

    bless your heart for staying so long to work through the process (I don’t know how many times I heard “trust the process” in my own experiences
    – yeah, that’s a hard NO after what I witnessed, but it sure exposed a lot of cr@p after at least 14 different councils/committees/classis/synods/ad hoc groups, etc.), as most people have to give up long before for many reasons, including their sanity, and I don’t blame them at all, as it’s a brutal battle with intense resistance… God is in the painful process of exposing the abuses of power going on in ALL streams/denoms… it’s an ugly process, but I believe the tide is shifting… keep praying, God is working through His people, including His women to bring the deeds of darkness into the light… it’s a “one another” partnership that He will use to change the systemic culture of cover up…

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  22. Shake the dust from your feet Aimee and find a church where your gifts are celebrated and you can build the Kingdom. Don’t look back. Blessings and prayers for your ministry.

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  23. Todd Billings says:

    I’ve been so appreciative of your thoughtful biblical and theological reflections through the years, and I’m so, so sorry to hear about this. Lamenting with you, and the other women who have contacted you. Lord, shine your face, and show the kindness and grace of “the great Shepherd of the Sheep” to you and the women whose stories you carry with you.

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  24. Matt Dudley says:

    May God continue to be gracious, merciful, and patient with everyone here. So much hate within the church, we are eating our own and the world scoffs. Any kind of abuse in the church is awful, unfortunately it will likely continue because we are dreadful sinners. Let’s get on our knees for each other and cry out to God for the church.

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  25. A Amos Love says:

    Aimee

    Sad – You had to suffer at the hands of these Bully Pastors.

    Glad – You left this “Abusive Religious System.”

    Jesus is always with you.
    He will NEVER leave you.

    Be blessed…
    And continue to be a blessing…
    ———-

    John 10:16 KJV
    And other sheep I have, which are NOT of this fold:
    them also I must bring, and they shall “Hear My Voice; “
    and there shall be “ONE” fold, and “ONE” shepherd.

    One Voice – One Fold – One Shepherd – One Leader

    {{{{{{ Jesus }}}}}}

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  26. A Amos Love says:

    Has anyone wondered what part todays Pastors play?
    In so many believers leaving these “Abusive Religious Systems?”

    In the Bible, God WARNS His Ekklesia, His Body…
    About PASTORS who will… who have…
    Scattered His flock, and…
    Driven them…
    Away…

    You’re NOT likely to hear these verses from the pulpit. 🙂

    Jeremiah 2:8 KJV
    …”The Pastors” also transgressed against me,
    and the prophets prophesied by Baal…

    Jeremiah 10:21 KJV
    For ”The Pastors” are become brutish, ( beastly, carnal )
    and have not sought the LORD: therefore they shall not prosper,
    and all their flocks shall be scattered.

    Jeremiah 12:10 KJV
    Many “Pastors” have destroyed my vineyard,
    they have trodden my portion under foot…

    Jeremiah 22:22 KJV
    The *wind shall eat up ALL “Thy Pastors,”
    (*wind = ruwach = breath, mind, spirit.)

    and thy lovers shall go into captivity:
    surely then shalt thou be ashamed
    and confounded for all thy wickedness.

    Jeremiah 23:1 KJV
    Woe be unto ”The Pastors” that destroy
    and scatter the sheep of my pasture!

    Jeremiah 23:2 KJV
    …thus saith the LORD God of Israel
    against ”The Pastors” that feed my people;

    **Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away,**

    and have not visited them: behold,
    **I will visit upon you the evil of your doings,**
    saith the LORD.

    YUP… Pastors have scattered His flock…
    And driven them away…
    ——-

    Jer 50:6
    “My people” hath been “lost sheep:”
    **THEIR shepherds**
    have caused them to *go astray,*

    Notice, it says THEIR shepherds.

    1 Pet 2:25
    For ye were as *sheep going astray;*
    BUT are now returned to
    the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.

    {{{{{{ Jesus }}}}}}

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  27. Bill says:

    Once again, with care in your words, you shine light on a place of great darkness in our world.

    thank you, sister, for walking in a truth that is loving, needed, and edifying.

    You’ve walked a very difficult path and spoken truth with an amazing clarity evidencing God’s work in and through you, and sought to build up His Church.

    May God bless you; may He shine His Face on you; may the light of HIs Grace enfold you and your family, and give you peace.

    In the Name of Jesus.

    Bill

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  28. Ken B says:

    A friend once said to me about some church authority hassle I was going through ‘I see you have been hewing down the altars of Ba’al again’ – and his devotees don’t like it!

    As someone on the other side of the Pond, I have followed developments on the complementarian American scene for some time. It seems to me, although that is the position I hold to, a structure has been built about this that the text itself will not support, and that it has become a bastion of power and hierarchical entitlement to be defended rather than something intended for the blessing of both men and women in the church.

    In effect Eph 5 has been altered to ‘wives submit to your husbands in the Lord, husbands exercise authority over your wives as Christ exercises authority over the church’.

    Similar rumblings of alarm at abuse are coming out of Doug Wilson’s constituency. In particular his commenters seem totally unwilling to even countenance the possibility of abuse within complementarian marriages, and resort to deflection, sometimes insults, and the ‘silent women’ verses; you were named on one occasion. To me this lends credibility to claims that things are going wrong and need dealing with.

    British evangelicals are starting to distance themselves from the American version of complementarianism, thinking it is being taken too far to the extent of being unhealthy.

    Finally, I think it biblical that men who are abusing what they consider their authority will find God ceases to answer prayer until they get it put right.

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  29. Cal Boroughs says:

    Aimee – prayers for you. You have been courageous in your commitment to the One who rejoices over you with singing. May you and your family find a place of healing.

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  30. Paul K says:

    Aimee, I recommend reading Steven Hassan’s book, “Combating Cult Mind Control”. I’m NOT insinuating the OPC is a cult, and I don’t think it is. But Hassan does an excellent job describing what authoritarian control is. More than any other book, it’s helped me make sense of some of my own church experiences.

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  31. AJ. says:

    There’s various layers to this. As an observer with an opinion, I’ve come to realize how toxic the internet is and how easily my opinion can turn to hard critique (with an element of my own assumptions). I think you are very sincere and well intentioned. To be honest, men like Pastor Spangler are very sincere and well intentioned. Can you both be these things? Yes. Can tribes and sincerely held biblical and theological concerns affect charitable speech and even alter character (especially when full emotional and spiritual maturity has not been a
    achieved? Most probably. I’m speaking to myself as much as anyone else. I’m getting off the internet and out of online discussions. It is a truly unhealthy way to spend time and attempt to communicate concerns and convictions.

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    1. Mark Schaefer says:

      “These things I have spoken to you so that you will not be led into sin. They will ban you from the synagogue, yet an hour is coming for everyone who kills you to think that he is offering a service to God. These things they will do because they have not known the Father nor Me.” (John 16:1-3)

      This shows the root of the problem. There are those who are sincere and well-intentioned who think they are serving God by persecuting the saints, yet they DO NOT KNOW GOD. More and more I see that these people can be identified from their lack of love. They are convinced that their zealotry equates to love. That is, they post malicious slander against the saints, they pre-call conference venues to slander against the saints, they slander the saints in presbytery meetings, and they convince themselves and their followers that this is actually very loving towards saints who need to be corrected and opposed.

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  32. AJ. says:

    I think your concerns about the mistreatment of the vulnerable is obviously valid and we need to see where we as individual Christians, Churches, and denominations are failing in being instruments of refuge, charity and healing in Christ.

    If you get a chance check out the sermons of Trinity OPC Pastor Lane Tipton. He is a truly humble servant and minister of the word.

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  33. T.L.S.E says:

    It is to their shame. I’m sorry it has come to this. More than anything else, I think your blog has become synonymous to me with placing proper Trinitarian theology back to the forefront as well as Biblical anthropology. All the best to you and yours.

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  34. 1covenanter says:

    Aimee, I hope you like it in the PCA. That will be a good fit for you.

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    1. lisacadora says:

      Not really.

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  35. John says:

    Tldr; because the OPC didn’t do exactly as she wanted them to she is leaving for a church where she can be an elder. In her mind, she’s the holy spirit, and the way she puts together “facts” is the only truth.

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  36. Thomas Paine says:

    Praying for you. We had to leave the OPC as well, when they equivocated leaving the toilet seat up and actual abuse as both wrong reasons to leave a marriage – so the abused woman is supposed to stay and take it. When we talked to the Session about it, only one Elder was on our side.

    tinysa.com/sermon/623191949171 Starting about the 8:00 mark

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